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Citadel BattleMat (2008 Version) Options
GREEN_MACHINE
Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:41:05 AM

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The Product
: The citidel battle mat is a 4 x 6 cloth backed, static grass gaming mat. It is currently sold in a standard green color. This review is of the 2008 improved version. An earlier version of the battle mat which was sold in a rolled format is reported to have had shedding issues, although I have no experience with that product to confirm it.

Package:  Mat comes folded in a mid sized, plastic windowed box. There are no use & care instructions.

Contents:  The mat uses what appears to be static grass, which is somehow bonded to what I think must be a latex backing and then has a smooth cloth covering sewn over the backing. The result is a 4 x 6 static grass mat which folds and rolls very easily and with no grass shedding to this point. I have measured the mat and it has true dimensions.

The other nice point with this mat, is that because of the backing cloth, it sits very well on a table and will leave no scratches on the good furniture if Mom is worried about you playing on the dining room table. The other advantage to the cloth backing is that it hangs very well over objects, so you could simply place some books under the mat to make a decent hill.

Points of note:

1)
Once the mat has been unfolded there are many creases.  I laid mine out on a flat table and was able to get rid of some. Posters on other forums reccomend rolling the mat tightly over night to get rid of the creases while other note you can lightly iron in. I'm not good with an iron at the best of times so I have opted to try the roll method at this time. I will update this post with the results at a later date.

2) My mat had a couple of spots where the grass had been damaged. These spots are the size of a pencil eraser and its not a big deal to me, however if they had been any bigger I would have returned it. If you plan on o purchasing this, I would ask to have a look at the mat for defects before leaving the store with it, just in case.

3) I use GF9 green static grass to base my minis. I had hoped the mat color and the base color would be close, however the GF9 basing is lighter and brighter green than the GW stuff. I'm not sure if the GW green static grass (loose containers) match the mat either, however the GF9 bases still look great on the mat. If this is an issue for you though, perhaps you might want to check and see if the GW grass is a better match and rebase your minis.

4) There are no use and care instructions. I think this would have been nice, and could have contained some info on perhaps how to spot clean it etc, for those times when something gets spilled on it. It is rumored it can be washed but I think I would contact GW for the low down on care before attempting any kind of cleaning etc.

5) Although designed to be used with GW scaled minis, I have set this out for 15mm and its looks great.

Conclusion: The Battle mat appears to be very well thought out and made.  I think that this mat would be a great gaming investment for any system or scale where a grass terrain or gaming surface is required. 

I am very happy and give it 10/10.



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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:47:57 AM

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Not sure if moisture would damage the static grass or not but what about hanging it in the bathroom when you have a shower to get rid of the creases?

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GREEN_MACHINE
Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:29:44 PM

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That was another tip I read on the mat.  I'm working my way thtrough the list :-)

I'm not worried at all about the creases not  coming out, worst case its just a matter of time.  Looking forward to seeing how the roll method worked when I get home tonight.



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GREEN_MACHINE
Posted: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:11:58 AM

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So the rolling took out a lot of the creases but not all. 

Next is to steam it like FMP suggestted. We have a steamer for doing draps etc at home so I'll be using that.

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Posted: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:03:00 AM

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GREEN_MACHINE wrote:
So the rolling took out a lot of the creases but not all. 

Next is to steam it like FMP suggestted. We have a steamer for doing draps etc at home so I'll be using that.


Another good way is with an Iron, and hitting the steam function but about a 8-10 inches away from it. That should work as well.

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Posted: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:10:44 AM

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I'm not good with an iron at the best of times let alone with precious hobby items...the risk for epic failure is too high!

Perhaps I can convince my wife to undertake this challenge :-)

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Posted: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 5:23:55 PM

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Has anyone else had any experience with this product? I am thinking about ordering one. Did you finally get all the creases out?

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GREEN_MACHINE
Posted: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:20:21 PM

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Hey Thindol,

I did get the creases out,  however I have played it for a while and then put it away for weeks at a time and it still gets creases each time, when I fold it. I find the best method to avoid the creases is to roll it, although it takes up more space.

That said, I am still very happy with the product and reccomend it, and still think its the best grass mat out there...in the past I have used no shed vynil railway mats and the GW product is a far better product.

The thing I like the most about this mat to this point is that after months of use, I have had no shedding and it still looks as good as the day I bout it. Another thing I love is that I can roll or fold it up and put it away in 30 seconds.

go get one...

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